let's figure out how to stig stigmatize the rising economy. i was at a meeting in california of young new stewards on saturday. this is 7 to 10 years. i've been doing this my whole life. i may not be there at the end of that period, but i'm sure, absolutely certain, that without that kind of basic movement in this country, not just the traditional union agenda, we don't have a chance. on the other hand, with that kind of agenda, i absolutely believe we can change this country as president obama talked about in 2008. the change you can believe in, the change you work for. >> what has president obama done for labor in these last four years? >> well, i think he's tried to do quite a bit. i think in his heart he definitely supports, you know, working families. part of the outcome piece is what gets through the u.s. congress. so he definitely supported health care bill much more like speaker pelosi than what we ended up getting through the senate finance committee, onto the senate floor and eventually adopted a year later. he definitely supported w